[Newlug] Google Wave discussion- The future of NEWLUG.

GaveUp gaveup at gmx.net
Mon Jan 4 13:54:30 CST 2010


Here are some things to consider.  

* Not everyone has a gmail account, nor necc. desires to have one, but without one they can't participate in the wave.
* How can this data be archived for future use?  A wave and the data on it is held by google with no easy, reliable way to archive it as viewable on the wave. (correct me if I'm wrong).  Even if there is there's no guarantees that this will remain an option in the future.
* While not everyone on the list may wish to follow the topics you've listed below what advantage is gained by removing theses discussions from the list?  This is not a highly active list so it's not likely that the mails would get lost in other discussions.  I'd also be willing to wager most use a threading email client and would be able to view a post in a thread and realize they're not interested in it and skip over it.
* Far be it from me to dictate how the group is run, I really don't have much of an interest in that anymore, but remember that those on the "council" won't always be on the "council."  When those changes happen the new people may not wish to use wave for whatever reason, but to switch would mean a fragmentation of information (see my second point).  The great benefit of this list is that any one of us can not only maintain a complete archive of the list but that it's all available in one spot.  

If there is deemed a need to use something other than this mailing list for the below mentioned topics making use of wave makes perfect sense, but the permenant repository of that information should be in a format where we, as a group, maintain control over it, not some uninterested third party.  Just think of the previous discussions on who is in control of the website.  Is this really any different?

I guess the final point worth making is that this is, as mentioned before, an extremely low volume list.  So much so that for months at a time the only discussions that might be seen on this list are of the topics below.  Removing these from the list, at least at this current time, could effectively kill the list.

Call me an old mutt using fogey if you will, but the points above are worth at least considering.  

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On Mon, 04 Jan 2010, Ross Larson wrote:

> Hello, NEWLUG people.
> 
> As you may have heard, I was recently elected President of NEWLUG.  As such,
> I'm trying to collect some opinions about NEWLUG, and I've decided to use a
> Wave in Google Wave to facilitate the group communication.  I understand
> that not everyone checks their waves daily, and not everyone has a wave
> account.  However, I feel that using wave for this type of discussion is
> preferable, as not everyone on the list may feel like discussing these
> issues at length, and I'd like to save them the pain and suffering of
> following along if they aren't interested.
> 
> The questions I'd like to discuss at first:
> 
> What sorts of activities should NEWLUG do? What do YOU want to do with
> NEWLUG?
> 
> How should NEWLUG store its membership info? What info should NEWLUG have?
> Who should have access to it?
> 
> Where and when should we meet?
> 
> 
> If you do not have a Google Wave account, let me know via the mailing list
> or via email and I will add you to the wave.  Currently, all of the
> participants in the NEWLUG Wave have also been added to the "Future of
> NEWLUG" wave.  Depending on how this goes, we may choose to continue to use
> WAVE, or use other tools, such as IRC or a PHPbb forum.
> 
> Thanks to everyone for electing me.  Let's get this show on the road.
> 
> 
> Ross Larson
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